baby at your breast,wonder how you manage to feed the rest.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
hey....ask you random question k.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
you know all those movies about love..

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
not the bgr kind of love la..

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
as in the unconditional love for anybody at all kind of thing.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
that phenomenon itself...to love each other as if they were brethren...faham ar what kind of love i am talkign about ?

♫ grace. says:
yeah

♫ grace. says:
phileo

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
what phileo?

♫ grace. says:
greek has many words for love

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i see.

♫ grace. says:
agape is God's love

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
so phileo means that

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
?

♫ grace. says:
phileo is more brotherly

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i see.

♫ grace. says:
wait i show you

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
k

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
show

♫ grace. says:
http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/love.htm


♫ grace. says:
" 'Phileo' is a love which consists of the glow of the heart kindled by the perception of that in the object which affords us pleasure. It is the response of the human [soul] to what appeals to it as pleasurable... The word was used to speak of a friendly affection. It is a love called out of one in response to a feeling of pleasure or delight which one experiences from an apprehension of qualities in another that furnish such pleasure or delight

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
reading


♫ grace. says:
read here


♫ grace. says:
a) [Jn 21:15-17]:
(v. 15) "When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, 'Simon son of John, do you truly love ["agapas"] Me more than these [disciples]? 'Yes, Lord,' he said, 'you know that I love ["philO] you.' Jesus said, 'Feed My lambs.'
(v. 16) Again Jesus said, 'Simon son of John, do you truly love ["agapas"] me?' He answered, 'Yes, Lord, you know that I ["philO"] you.' Jesus said, 'Take care of My sheep.'
(v. 17) The third time He said to him, 'Simon son of John, do you love ["phileis"] Me?' Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time 'Do you love ["phileis"] Me?' He said, 'Lord, you know all things; you know that I love ["philO] you.' Jesus said, 'Feed My sheep.' "
Notice that Peter uses the verb form "philO" that is rendered 'love' in answer to the Lord Jesus Christ Who uses another verb, "agapas" for the first two times He asked Peter His question, 'Do you love Me?' There is an obvious emphasis on the issue of whether or not Peter loves the Lord with "agapas" love with His two repetitions of this word, especially after Peter answered in the affirma


tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i don't mean phileo

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i mean agape.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
do you believe humans to be capable of it.?

♫ grace. says:
mmhm

♫ grace. says:
okay

♫ grace. says:
hahhaha. sorry so many quotations

♫ grace. says:
go on

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i just want your point of view.do you believe humans to be capable of it?

♫ grace. says:
that's the question?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
yes

♫ grace. says:
yes

♫ grace. says:
but i think it takes a certain degree of spirituality in the rship to agape the person in question

♫ grace. says:
i think la. not very sure about the agape/phileo thing la now. heh. as far as i THOUGHT i knew..phileo was brotherly love

♫ grace. says:
but yes. can. husbands are supposed to agape their wives

♫ grace. says:
and vice versa too la

♫ grace. says:
haha

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
but are we capable of that? as humans?

♫ grace. says:
yeah

♫ grace. says:
but i think it takes a certain degree of spirituality in the rship to agape the person in question

♫ grace. says:
why the question?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
why does it take that?

♫ grace. says:
whether or not i agape someone...

♫ grace. says:
why does it take spirituality?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
why that need for spirituality?

♫ grace. says:
because......we're humans.

♫ grace. says:
haha

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
oh..e.xplain what you mean by it takes spirituality?

♫ grace. says:
i mean it'd be pretty hard to be able to love someone unconditionally wouldn't it

♫ grace. says:
no MATTER WHAT

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
oh you mean that way.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
yes yes...

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
so it's possible for us to agape if God's will is in it ?

♫ grace. says:
it's like normal basic life stuff that you can't do on your own and need God's help la

♫ grace. says:
that sorta thing i guess.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
yes yes

♫ grace. says:
mmm

♫ grace. says:
yeah. for now i say yes

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
so you do think we are capable of it.

♫ grace. says:
can i go think about it first

♫ grace. says:
hahaha

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
lol.

♫ grace. says:
what do you think?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
so Jesus agape-ed everyone.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
and what responses did he get?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
he got the positive ones

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
like His dirty dozen followed HIm..

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
the negative ones...what kind of negative response did He get when He agape-ed?

♫ grace. says:
don't you know that already...

♫ grace. says:
what's your poin?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
I do..but can you remind me of what negative responses He got?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
people thuoght he was crazy,people thought He was trying to con them into something,

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
don't know..i talk to you these things don't tell anyone...k? I think my calling is to just love and then die..lol.=) but I get some negative responses la..just want to know what God went through as well..

♫ grace. says:
ish. this isnt a post valentine's emo rant right. hahah. what makes you think that's your calling?

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
today near college...there was this man standing alone .looking like he was waiting for something,then I stop by him and ask him the time...he takes a really disgusting look at me...then tells me it's 8 o clock and then i offer him a ride to wherever he was going...then he starts swearing at me in chinese..lol.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
i've been thinking it's my calling for a few years now..

♫ grace. says:
hmmm..that wasn't nice

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
it's all I am capable of doing with Christ given my circumstances..

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
yeah...

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
it wasn't nice.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
but HE faced such things too didn't he?

♫ grace. says:
are you very affected by it?

♫ grace. says:
yes He did

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
and I guess I am very affected by it lah, and a friend of mine told me a few minutes earlier that people get umcomfortable when I am too nice.That statement bothers me too,if I can't be nice then what do I do?Keep away?it's not what I'm good at.
tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
No this is not a post valentines rant.Valentines is of no significance to me lah.

♫ grace. says:
mmm

♫ grace. says:
it's okay. be the nice person you are. people actually appreciate your gestures. and even if you come across many who don't..at least you know it made an impact. whether or not it's a positive one doesn't matter, cuz i'm believing in time...they'd realise

♫ grace. says:
it's like sowing seeds, y'know?

♫ grace. says:
not everyone's receptive but at least the seed is sown
tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
I see.Thanks for your insight,It's nice to hear opinions of random people.Do you mind If i put this as a blog post?

♫ grace. says:
who am i to mind

♫ grace. says:
haha

♫ grace. says:
welcome

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
you are the second person in this conversation lah.miss soon to be Jazz Pianist Uehara =)of course you can mind.

tak cukup bagus untuk kesemuanya.sigh says:
LOL